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    And the Lord said unto Michael: 'Go, bind Semjz and his associates who have united themselves with women so as to have defiled themselves with them in all their uncleanness. And when their sons have slain one another, and they have seen the destruction of their beloved ones, bind them fast for seventy generations in the valleys of the earth, till the day of their judgement and of their consummation, till the judgement that is for ever and ever is consummated.

    • 1 Enoch 10:11-12




    Then the sixth angel sounded: And I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.” So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind.

    • Revelation 9:13-15
    The Fruits of Macroevolution are: Atheism, Social Darwinism, Racism, Eugenics and No Moral Absolutes.

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    Again.



    Moot point
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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    Again.



    Moot point


    So, We have:

    The Essenes using The book of Enoch Before the time of Christ.

    The Dead sea Scrolls containing The Book of Enoch

    4 Different Church Fathers making Reference To The Book of Enoch as scripture in their writings.

    Archeological Stone Structures built before The Aid of Hydraulic Machines in ancient times that can't even be made or moved in today's time with today's technology.

    The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church From Anceint Times having The Book of Enoch in their Official Canon.



    And All these Things mean nothing to you.

    Yet you still believe and promote: Macroevolution and Heliocentrism. I just can't take your posts seriously.
    The Fruits of Macroevolution are: Atheism, Social Darwinism, Racism, Eugenics and No Moral Absolutes.

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    Lots and lots of books were written before the bible.
    ..so that's a moot point.

    The writers of the bible quote all kinds of non-inspired works....so again moot point.
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    Lots on writers quoted all kinds of works in church history. ..but they felt free to do that...

    Did the same guys ever claim that this meant we are to understand the whole work is inspired and equal with scriptures? .





    I will pause while you GOOGLE that. ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    ....so again moot point.

    No, they are not moot points.
    The Fruits of Macroevolution are: Atheism, Social Darwinism, Racism, Eugenics and No Moral Absolutes.

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    Did the same guys ever claim that this meant we are to understand the whole book of Enoch is inspired and equal with scriptures? .......the answer is no.


    My point is that writers throughout church history have used different sources to make different arguments.
    While some people today try to make a big deal over the fact that a writer quoted from Enoch, they seem to skip-over the fact that many non-inspired books are quoted within the text of the Bible.

    The earrly church writers felt free to do this.
    They felt free to use whatever source they wanted as long as it worked to help their arguments..

    So when we read such quotations taken out of non-inspired works we must do so with the knowledge that this use of a book of Enoch quotations does not mean for one moment that the writer is supporting the entire work as being equal to the Bible.
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    From the Forum RULES : "As you know, the Walter Martin website takes the position that Mormon theology is not Christian theology. Use of the term "LDS Christian" is inaccurate and misleading, and as such is not acceptable on this board."

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    John, to the seven churches which are in Asia:

    Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the Seven Spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth.

    • Revelation 1:4-5




    And these are the Names of The Holy Angels who watch. Uriel, one of the holy angels, who is over the world and over Tartarus. Raphael, one of the holy angels, who is over the spirits of men. Raguel, one of the holy angels who †takes vengeance on† the world of the luminaries. Michael, one of the holy angels, to wit, he that is set over the best part of mankind ⌈⌈and⌉⌉ over chaos. . Saraql, one of the holy angels, who is set over the spirits, who sin in the spirit. Gabriel, one of the holy angels, who is over Paradise and the serpents and the Cherubim. Remiel, one of the holy angels, whom God set over those who rise.

    • 1 Enoch 20





    But to which of the angels has He ever said:

    “Sit at My right hand,
    Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”?
    Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation?

    • Hebrews 1:13-14
    The Fruits of Macroevolution are: Atheism, Social Darwinism, Racism, Eugenics and No Moral Absolutes.

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