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    The search for the truth of God, always starts and ends with the Scriptures...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan View Post
    …7which is not even a gospel. Evidently some people are troubling you and trying to distort the gospel of Christ.

    8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a divine curse!

    9As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be under a curse!…
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    Ironically, Paul was saying something that was not true... or to state it another way; “an impossibility”. Paul was relying on hyperbole to make a point, he was not trying to create or relay doctrine, which is how you are interpreting it to read. Read the commentaries, even they admit that it would be impossible for God to send an angel to lie to the people, for that would make God culpable in the lie, and therefore a lier. You can easily make mistakes like this when you do not read the verses carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan View Post
    so, as the verse I have posted above clearly states, it really does not matter that someone was convinced that it was a messenger from God that gave them their personal revelation.

    In the end, the revelation has to agree with what we have already received in the New Testament Gospel.

    The revelation has to agree,,,
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    Ahhhh.... you do realize don’t you that you just sunk your own argument???
    If the Bereans or the Galatians searched the scriptures in order to compare them against what Paul was saying, it certainly wasn’t the New Testament, as that didn’t even exist. Really, I was hoping you were a little more Bible literate with which to sharpen my skills against... instead I get nonsensical rantings from you which contradict itself.
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    "IF"?

    They "did" put all of Paul's teachings and words to the test of scripture.

    This is the very same test we should put all teaching up against..
    Thius is why i always ask people to take my words and compare them to what the Bible says

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    so this is why whenever we may hear of a story of a messenger sent from God to us we have to do as the Bible teaches us, and compare what this messenger says to what the Bible says.

    So it does not matter squat that a person might be 100% convinced that the messenger is truly from the Lord, you still have to put to the test all that the messenger says.

    If it is in disagreement?...reject it!

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    once again, the search of truth about God is found first and last with the Bible

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan View Post
    "IF"?

    They "did" put all of Paul's teachings and words to the test of scripture.

    This is the very same test we should put all teaching up against..
    Thius is why i always ask people to take my words and compare them to what the Bible says
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    Compare it with whose understanding of the Bible??? The Bible as understood by the Catholics? Or the Bible as understood by the Jews? Or the Bible as understood by the mainline Protestants? the Bible as understood by the Orthodox Church? The Bible as understood by the various Gnostics? The Bible as understood by the Modern Evangelicals? the Bible as understood by the Calvinists? The Bible as understood by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? Or the Bible as understood by the Historians on the History Channel? Or the Bible as understood by the Seventh day Adventist’s? Or the Bible as understood by the Unitarians? Or the Bible as understood by Alan who posts on the Walter Martin’s forum? just which understanding of the Bible are we to compare it against?
    That also begs the question??? What if a person doesn’t have access to a Bible? Can they be saved? or what if they have access to the Bible but want to be saved before they read it?.... is that likewise possible?
    I don’t expect for you to get it, but those who are Lurking here will instantly see the holes in your “It begins and ends with the Bible” nonsensical theory.
    If you only want a partial truth of the Bible, then simply read the Bible. But if you are seeking for the Real Truth, then read the Bible with fasting, prayer, with all available commentaries and from different perspectives, but most important, seek for personal revelation and confirmation of the Holy Ghost when reading the Bible.
    After all, this is what happened to Joseph Smith. Joseph studied the Bible, yet because the different Christian sects of his day all interpreted it differently, he didn’t know which version of the truth of the Bible to believe, so he took it to the Lord... James 1:5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan View Post
    so this is why whenever we may hear of a story of a messenger sent from God to us we have to do as the Bible teaches us, and compare what this messenger says to what the Bible says.
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    Once again you are in error Alan.
    Ironically, you should have taken your own advice and compared your statement against what the scriptures actually said before you posted it.
    Paul did not say to compare it with the Bible, he said to compare it with the gospel that he and others had previously preached to them. Because as I already pointed out, the Bible as we know it did not even exist at that time.
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