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    Default Any heathen can start a religion

    David koresh, william butler, and joseph smith are typical examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post
    David koresh, william butler, and joseph smith are typical examples.
    don't forget hubbard and scientology and the leader of the children of god David something
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    You mean like Calvin, Luther, John Smyth, Wycliffe, Tyndale, et al.. all of which were considered heretics in a their day. Only two types of religion can claim that they did not start their own. Ones with direct unbroken succession,(Orthodox Christianity) and those that claim a unbroken succession through restoration(Mormons). Meaning all of the Protestant Churches started because of a mortal man or woman.
    So like almost all your criticisms of the LDS Church, you only end up exposing your own false religion.
    If you insist on continuing using this loser of an argument based on nothing more than a worthless biased opinion, you might want to define the word “heathen”, “religion” who is considered the real founder of the Churches you are criticizing by the people in that religion, and you need to state your own religion.
    I know your childish antics never though that far ahead, however I ***ume you are like most “modern” Protestants which claim you do not belong to any religion.
    However that begs the question.... if you are OK with people starting a “Bible study group” or “congregation” based on their own unique interpretation of the Bible, why do you care if others do the same and call it a religion???
    Smells like jealousy to me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by theway View Post
    You mean like Calvin, Luther, John Smyth, Wycliffe, Tyndale, et al.. all of which were considered heretics in a their day. Only two types of religion can claim that they did not start their own. Ones with direct unbroken succession,(Orthodox Christianity) and those that claim a unbroken succession through restoration(Mormons). Meaning all of the Protestant Churches started because of a mortal man or woman.
    So like almost all your criticisms of the LDS Church, you only end up exposing your own false religion.
    If you insist on continuing using this loser of an argument based on nothing more than a worthless biased opinion, you might want to define the word “heathen”, “religion” who is considered the real founder of the Churches you are criticizing by the people in that religion, and you need to state your own religion.
    I know your childish antics never though that far ahead, however I ***ume you are like most “modern” Protestants which claim you do not belong to any religion.
    However that begs the question.... if you are OK with people starting a “Bible study group” or “congregation” based on their own unique interpretation of the Bible, why do you care if others do the same and call it a religion???
    Smells like jealousy to me...
    You make some good points, IMO.
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    Hi Phoenix,

    Putting aside the term religion, would you agree that there can be only one truth? Meaning that what
    a person or group believes about God is either true or it is not. And if it is truth, time and culture and
    beliefs do not change it, it can be knowable by all and it is absolute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    You make some good points, IMO.

    Calvin et al whom you listed were considered heretics by HEATHENS a lot like the mormons of today, who had their own 'speshul' manmade religions.

    Calvin et al whom you listed were CHRISTIANS who started CHRISTIAN CONGREGATIONS of CHRIST'S CHURCH. Smithy started a new religion, which he STOLE the description "Christian" for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disciple View Post
    Hi Phoenix,

    Putting aside the term religion, would you agree that there can be only one truth? Meaning that what
    a person or group believes about God is either true or it is not. And if it is truth, time and culture and
    beliefs do not change it, it can be knowable by all and it is absolute.
    If phoenix is a mormon, to answer that HONESTLY would be impossible, imho

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