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    Richard
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    Probably ----- http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_Jesus_baptize_anyone
    The Gospels do not say much about Jesus baptizing his followers. The synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, & Luke) are silent about this subject. It is the Gospel of John that mentions what little is said about this issue, and it is inconsistent about the answer.
    It would seem from John 3:22 that he did:
    "After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea, and there he tarried with them, and baptized."
    This is reiterated in John 3: 25 - 26:
    "Then there arose a question between {some} of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying. And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all (men) come to him. "
    But John 4: 1 - 3 also states that Jesus did not baptize anyone:
    "When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John, (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,) He left Judaea, and departed again into Galilee. "
    Scholars disagree on how to interpret this apparent contradiction. The prevalent theory is that Jesus baptized people at one point in his ministry, but ceased to do so after a time. This theory is consistent with the Jewish expectation that the Messiah would indeed baptize people, which the Gospel of John mentions in 1:25:
    "And they (the Pharisees) asked him (John), and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet?"
    It is probable then, to conclude that Jesus did baptize people at some point in his ministry.
    It isn't recorded if Jesus baptized anyone, but his disciples did.
    Joseph Smith Translation, did he get it right?

    King James Version John 4:2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)

    Joseph Smith Translation John 4:3 Now the Lord knew this, though he himself baptized not so many as his disciples;

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    the only reading that seems to me to work the best is that Jesus had his men do the baptizing...But that Jesus never did this himself to anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    the only reading that seems to me to work the best is that Jesus had his men do the baptizing...But that Jesus never did this himself to anyone.
    Our ole friend Richard would believe Smith over anything any other said.. So he believes that Jesus did some baptizing.. But Smith said that many plain and precious things were taken from the Bible.. So here is a question.. Whether Jesus baptized others himself or had his disciples do it, does it change the message He came to share with us? The fact that the Bible makes it clear that Jesus didn't baptize any in no way changes the work Jesus came into mortality to do. He came here to die to make us holy, not to do something as physical as baptism.. Therefore Smith didn't add clarity in the JSP he added confusion.. IHS jim

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    one odd thing to keep in mind on the topic of baptism...

    "A general observation of the ministry of Jesus Christ reveals that He never told anyone to be baptized in any of the gospel accounts"
    (Taken from http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/baptism.html"

    This fits with an observation I have had on the topic for a while, in that I don't remember many times Jesus clearly instructed anyone to be baptized...
    And that fits with Paul's clear comments about not really baptizing many people at all.
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    baptism seems to have been something that John did, and that the followers of Jesus did, mostly because John did...but it does not appear to be all that important within the teachings of Jesus.


    The comments of Paul where it points out how limited is the list of names he baptized show us that Paul did not teach that it was some type of "life-or-death" importance to his ministry.

    Its a sign of a person being a Christian, as are other signs , like being kind, following the Golden Rule...loving people...forgiving people that offend you, etc
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