As far as I understand, Jeff, secondary causes would be causes not directly caused by the one uncaused cause, but only indirectly caused by such an one through those creations he initially caused to exist. Thus, Satan's temptation of Eve is only a secondary cause of God's creation. In JD parlance God indirectly caused the secondary cause. Somehow, JD, thinks this qualifying term gets him out of actually dealing with the arguments presented. Yet, in no way does the concept even address my argument, to his frustration.

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