Because they are not accountable. They are saved through the Atonement of Christ.
One cannot be a sinner unless they are accountable for sin.
Billy--you believe infants are sinners.
Because they are not accountable. They are saved through the Atonement of Christ.
One cannot be a sinner unless they are accountable for sin.
Billy--you believe infants are sinners.
For one, Billyray--infants do not break commandments. They do not even know how, or what a commandment is.Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post
Because they are not accountable. They are saved through the Atonement of Christ.
One cannot be a sinner unless they are accountable for sin.
Those who have reached accountability--sin.
Can a person including a child break a commandment and not know that they are breaking a commandment?
Is it a sin to break a commandment if you do not know that it is a commandment?
But yet--you have infants, who have never stole anything---as sinners.Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post
One cannot be a sinner unless they are accountable for sin.
I think, per LDS theology, one can "transgress" without actually sinning. If children are not held accountable, then it would seem that Christ's atonement is covering their "transgressions".
Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post
For one, Billyray--infants do not break commandments. They do not even know how, or what a commandment is.
Those who have reached accountability--sin.Again, Billyray--children, as infants, cannot break a commandment. They do not even know what a commandment is.
No, not in the case of infants. They have no concept of that idea whatsoever.Is it a sin to break a commandment if you do not know that it is a commandment?
Again--can you give us an example of how an infant can sin--seeing that you believe they are sinners?
Can you break a commandment and not know that you are breaking a commandment?
The issue is that you are mixing up breaking a commandment and accountability. A child can break a commandment and thus commit a sin and yet may not be accountable because he did not know right from wrong.
Please share with us what commandment you believe that infants break.Can you break a commandment and not know that you are breaking a commandment?
The issue is that you are mixing up breaking a commandment and accountability. A child can break a commandment and thus commit a sin and yet may not be accountable because he did not know right from wrong.
Yeah, I was going to mention that, as well. I understand being born with a "sin nature" (the potential to sin), but babies don't sin. I have seen some Christians claim that a baby crying, when it is hungry, is "sin", because it acts "selfishly"...which is perfectly ridiculous, IMO.
Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post
Billyray--you have stated that infants are sinners. That is an accountability issue.Libby--it's funny that you said that. I had a person relate that exact same thing to me--he described the baby kicking and crying, and attaching that action to sin.Yeah, I was going to mention that, as well. I understand being born with a "sin nature" (the potential to sin), but babies don't sin. I have seen some Christians claim that a baby crying, when it is hungry, is "sin", because it acts "selfishly"...which is perfectly ridiculous, IMO.
Speak of the belief in absurdities...