Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue? View Post
Joseph Smith has nothing to do with my point. The information and ideas i am presenting come from Christian sources outside of the LDS.

Create, Begotten, are the same to me, but if it makes you feel better we can use Begotten.


Explain to me what it means to you that Christ was "begotten". Was there a difference in Christ before He was begotten opposed to after having been begotten?

I think we both feel comfortable with definition #2.
I have no problem with any of then.. No where does it indicate that Jesus was ever made, the Creed stands undiminished. After it says Jesus was begotten just never made. All you have done it to confirm what the scripture and the creed teach.. IHS jim