Quote Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post
You are right--and the scriptures have this as the result of those works:

John 5:28-29----King James Version (KJV)


28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of ****ation.



Either life or ****ation.




Works is the basis for either receiving His grace to life--or ****ation. What is it about John5:28-29 we are not understanding?
But just like the definition of Eternal life mormonism has added a new definition to ****ation.. In mormonism a person can enter God's presence and still receive ****ation.. That is a wild doctrine but never the less the teaching of mormonism..

In the celestial glory there are three heavens or degrees;
And in order to obtain the highest, a man must enter into this order of the priesthood [meaning the new and everlasting covenant of marriage];
And if he does not, he cannot obtain it.
He may enter into the other, but that is the end of his kingdom; he cannot have an increase.’ (D&C 131:1–4.)
He cannot have an increase! He cannot have exaltation!
The Lord says further in the 132nd section of the Doctrine and Covenants:
No one can reject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory’ (D&C 132:4).
No one! It matters not how righteous they may have been, how intelligent or how well trained they are. No one will enter this highest glory unless he enters into the covenant, and this means the new and everlasting covenant of marriage. (Spencer W. Kimball, “The Importance of Celestial Marriage,” Ensign, Oct. 1979, pp. 5–6.)

By this we can see that even in the presence of God within the Celestial kingdom, those who gain the first two levels are ****ed.. Does this show that mormonism teaches a different definition of ****ation than the Bible.. YES!! Of that there is no doubt.. IHS jim