Quote Originally Posted by God-free View Post
LOL!

For now?
just keeping my options open

Is the robber’s gun loaded? The OP doesn’t say one way or the other
The premise that my life is on the line as he says he will kill me. It is most believable as he has put tangible metal to my head. I have much to lose, my family has much to lose. The OP says he WILL kill me.

They both gave you a choice that promises something which you cannot see (i.e. a bullet from one; a terrible afterlife from the other). They both used coercion as a way to attain their goals.
What are their goals the OP does not say. I can infer that the robber's goal is self interest in attaining my cash and a callous disregard for my life. What is God's goal? What is His regard for my life?

I know it’s uncomfortable for believers to admit, but there is no moral difference between the two scenarios as they‘re presented. I think your God gl***es are obstructing your view.
The following is a joke but it’s accurate and it's what this thread is about:
Knock knock
Q. Who’s there?
A. It’s Jesus. Let me in.
Q. Why?
A. So I can save you.
Q. From what?
A. From what I’m going to do to you if you don’t let me in.
I think part of the difficulty is that the OP is missing information. To compare apples to apples, wouldn't the robber have to first make the money that he requires available to me?


Humorous though it is, this is preaching and doesn’t address the point that God uses coercion in the same way the robber does.
Let me rephrase. The bridge is out for the victim in the OP.

“The Garden scene” has no relevance to this thread’s topic.
It really does when one allows views the forest rather than insisting on keeping to a single tree. The number 23 is just a number but its' context tells whether it's dollars or doughnuts or a number in a combination lock and the Garden scene tells us whether God held a gun to their head or warned them of the consequences of their actions.

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