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mickey posted:
God could "set up" the PERFECT "system"...but He still has to hand the reigns over to HUMANS. And humans aren't perfect. Do you believe God forced man to keep His Gospel intact?
Do MORMONS have to be 'forced' to keep THEIR religious books intact? WHY do you think God would NEED to force FAITHFUL CHRISTIANS to keep His Gospel intact? What an ignorant question you asked!
Actually, I know for a fact you don't believe God forced man to keep His Gospel intact because you don't believe the Catholic Church is true either....
Do YOU believe the catholic religion is Christ's church today? IF SO, WHY ARE YOU NOT CATHOLIC? In other words, you believe what I do, that the catholic religion apostatized (left Christ's church)
and it was "allowed" full reign of Christianity for a long time...why did God allow that??
??? I have NO IDEA what your strawman argument here is about. Perhaps if you re-wrote it to tell us what 'it" refers to? There has NEVER in all of the History of CHRIST'S CHURCH been a time when all CHRISTIANS were roman OR catholics.
The rcc was PART of Christ's church until it apostatized. BUT ONLY a part.
If He wouldn't allow His word or His scripture to be twisted or changed...why are there SO MANY translations of the Bible?
Multiple translations exist because LANGUAGE CHANGES. What 'gay' meant 50 years ago is NOT what it means today. What 'mouse' meant has changed too.
Of course YOU COULD NOT READ the original King James Bible. What you read today is the 7th REVISION of it.
We have over 5,200 partials and m****cript copies of the New Testament today, some as old as AD 120.
We have complete Old Testament copies older than that, including the Greek Septuagint that Jesus quoted from repeatedly. We have vast libraries from Biblical times, including lexical tools, so translation is not a problem.
Of course MORMONS HAVE NONE OF THIS. They cannot go to early documents to CHECK TO SEE IF JOEY EVER TRANSLATED ANYTHING AT ALL. No language tools are available for joey smith's imaginary 'reformed egyptian' language. All YOU HAVE is . . .nothing.
Do you believe God is a failure?
Nope.
Do you believe God failed to make it clear what church was in charge?
You are wrong again. JESUS has always been in charge of HIS CHURCH. Not some new cult invented about 200 years ago by joey smith. Jesus NEVER put ANY RELIGIOUS CORPORATION (rcc OR mormon) in charge of His church. HIS church has ALWAYS BEEN HIS OWN.
Because as far as history goes....you're a Protestant...which means your sect of Christianity either broke off from the Catholic Church or was attempting to reform the Catholic Church 1,000 years after it was formed.
Let's see now. . .I am a CHRISTIAN (not a 'protestant' at all), CHRISTIANITY has been here for about 2,000 years now. Your 'new religion' has only been around for about 200. I worship the same Jesus that has been the head of HIS church for about 2,000 years. HE NEVER FAILED.
I can worship with a Lutheran, ***emblies of God, Bible church, presbyterian, or evangelical free church in Spirit and in Truth. Jesus didn't built a 'religious government.' He built a church (CONGREGATION OF CONGREGATIONS). Your religious government will lead you to a very hot place if you follow it.
Wow....that's a long time for God to "allow" His church to be lead astray. Except according to you it never was lead astray..so you DO believe the Catholic Church true then? I thought you didn't believe they were Christian...
Your fourth-grade-level rhetoric is not worth responding to. You KNOW IT IS NOTHING BUT YOUR OWN TRASHTALK.
HOW STUPID IS THAT?