Originally Posted by
Phoenix
i see your point, theway, and it seems quite logical. if it were true that a person is saved first, before repentance, then if that person were to die immediately after being saved, then the person died without repenting of his sins, which means that his sins were never remitted or forgiven--and never can be forgiven, if people aren't allowed a chance to repent after they die. which means that either:
-- the person will get eternal life despite never being forgiven, which is heretical; or
-- that person has no hope of being saved, which contradicts the premise that he DID get saved--right before he died.
both options seem pretty false and illogical and "not within the pale of accepted Christianity," imo.