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    Quote Originally Posted by vladimir998 View Post
    Christ did not deceive Himself, nor did He deceive His people.
    Yes he did!

    Ezekiel 18:20 RSV

    "THE SON SHALL NOT SUFFER FOR THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHER. NOR THE FATHER SUFFER FOR THE INIQUITY OF THE SON; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself."

    Ezekiel 18:20 also "pulls the rug out from under" Christianity's main premise, that all generations of mankind are burdened with sin and death stemming from Adam's act of disobedience. Only Christ's redeeming shed blood can end this never-ending cycle of sin and death. Quite clearly Ezekiel refutes this notion. "The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father."

    Ezek. 18:20 proves the very alleged role and need for this biblical Jesus is a sham!

    The Jews were correct in rejecting this biblical Jesus and his alleged role, but they figured this not based upon the Book of Ezekiel (because they only follow the Torah or first 5 books of what now cons***utes the Christian Bible. i.e (Gen. Ex. Lev. Numb. Deut.))

    They rightly realised from the Book of Genesis that man was already subject to death = wages of sin (cf. Rom. 6:23) KJV story book, from the very beginning of their creation and it was NOT because of the christian tall tale of Adam & Eve's disobedience bringing death to all men, because of their disobedience. Ezek. 18:20 also unambiguously proves the various Christian churches and other false ideologies have promoted that furphy (lie) from the start.

    So what did the Jews rightly discover to decimate the Christian deception?

    And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. (Gen. 2: 9) KJV story book

    NB: . . . . the tree of life . . . .

    i.e. Man was already subject to death (wages of sin) even before they are said to have sinned and brought death upon themselves and every one else thereafter (Rom. 5:12) KJV story book, simply because they were always in need of the Tree of Life to save them from any form of death, even before this other biblical tall tale about them sinning and being the cause of bringing death on themselves and all others.

    So -

    Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death p***ed upon all men, for that all have sinned: {for that: or, in whom} (Rom. 5:12) KJV story book

    Is unambiguously contradicted by -

    a) The inherent dependence of all men created dependent on the Tree of Life to save them from any form of death. (Gen. 2: 9) KJV story book

    b) Ezekiel 18:20 RSV story book

    "THE SON SHALL NOT SUFFER FOR THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHER. NOR THE FATHER SUFFER FOR THE INIQUITY OF THE SON . . . .

    i.e. NO one else can suffer for their fathers' iniquities.

    Christianity is proven to be based upon lies and the celebration of the christian saviour Jesus is total HUMBUG!

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    Composer,

    Do you claim a belief in any god?

    RGS

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    vladimir998
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    Default Walter Reinhold Warttig Mattfeld y de la Torre Strikes Again?

    RGS,

    Composer has posted this before, elsewhere:

    http://www.religiousforums.com/forum...-ideology.html

    http://www.worldslastchance.com/8-tr...9/Page-17.html

    http://christiantalkzone.net/forum/s...ad.php?p=38921

    http://www.bibleorigins.net/MoabiteBloodMessiah.html




    This is the supposed author of the screed: http://www.bibleorigins.net/MoabiteBloodMessiah.html


    And I think this article of his fairly gives an example of his depravity: Yahweh-Elohim (Jesus Christ) "The Fornicator God" who became _spiritually_ a "Eunuch God": http://www.bibleorigins.net/YahwehFo...EunuchGod.html

    There is a very good chance that Composer IS Walter Mattfeld.

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    vladimir998
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    Default Wally Mattfeld

    Here's Mattfeld's Amazon pages: http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A27D8OLERZ0GIT



    http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-...stRecentReview

    Other posts by Mattfeld:

    http://www.backtype.com/url/www.bibl...87c2e13df1787a

    Although he adds a Spanish name to his name, here he just says he is a German-American of German ancestory: http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache...&ct=clnk&gl=us

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    RGS
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    Default Thank you Vlad

    Thank you Vlad for the websites you put on your last two posts here.
    RGS

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    vladimir998
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    Default No Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by RGS View Post
    Thank you Vlad for the websites you put on your last two posts here.
    RGS
    No problem!

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