Oh! When did the "Book of Enoch" BECOME A PART OF THE MORMON "STANDARD WORKS"??? Why should I care what's contained in a spurious Gnostic writing which the ancient church rightly dismissed as "scripture"???
While the Bible does NOT teach a multi-tiered "heaven" where even UNREPENTANT MURDERERS, ET AL GO TO, the Bible DOES teach that works determine the amount of REWARDS or lack thereof for the REDEEMED, it also teaches that works determine the amount of PUNISHMENT, greater or lesser for the REPROBATE, the ****ED.
Good one. I rarely agree with Mos but I can on this one. Perhaps a bit of your Lutheran background is peeking through here to which I say, "AMEN!!"
Ok. So far so good...but what you write next is fraught with error:
The historic Christian position is that so-called "works" performed by the reprobate are not acceptable to God, having been born from an UNREGENERATE state. Re-read this five or six times before commenting.
You've contradicted yourself again. Earlier you said that one one is truly converted that one WILL WANT TO SERVE OTHERS, etc. And NOW you're saying it's possible that there's FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS ALIVE. See your contradiction...yet?? Better re-read this several times as well.
Almost "Christian" but not quite. Both would be saved BY GRACE, THROUGH FAITH, and faith alone.
Never said works weren't "important"...just pointing out the Mormon heresy regarding them. Bottom line in Mormon soteriology?? Works save one along with faith.
Now this idea is nearly "Roman Catholic". You've got works somehow preserving faith...it's the other way around: REAL Faith WILL result in works. If you have no "works", your "faith" was NOT ALIVE BUT A DEAD FAITH THAT CAN SAVE NO ONE.
Sorry, sbt...but you're so confused you affirm one thing one moment, and then affirm the OPPOSITE the next. First you said if one doesn't have "works" that one's faith WILL DIE. But now you say, one doesn't have works, but that doesn't mean "we were no longer saved". Do you think you can keep your story straight for just one moment??
Ah. But you said in so many words that FAITH WAS SUFFICIENT. Now according to you it is NOT: "Ordinances WILL STILL HAVE TO BE PERFORMED...". Therefore the man's faith wasn't ENOUGH. Btw...the Bible does NOT teach "second chance" salvation. When one dies, either that one is IN CHRIST, or is NOT. "It's appointed unto man to die once, and AFTER THIS THE JUDGMENT".
IF either were truly "saved" at their death beds, then YES.
See answers above. You have several times contradicted yourself.
Typical Mormon straw-man. Faith and works are INSEPERABLY BOUND. There. You can't say my belief keep them "far apart". It's YOU who thinks that works still somehow JUSTIFY ONE IN GOD'S SIGHT FROM A FORENSIC POINT OF VIEW. I suggest you really read and understand Eph. 2 for starters.
"We love Him because He FIRST loved us..." is what scripture teaches. But YES!!!! Good works increase our rewards FOR THE REDEEMED and seemingly "good" works LESSEN the punishment in HELL FOR THE REPROBATE.
Uh...there might be some hope for you, sbt. Although Mormonism has confused you, you still retain some correct understanding which is NOT MORMON.