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--Bad News for Jim Time: Neither you NOR the Bible is error-free. I admit that the Bible possibly has less errors than you do, though.
You made the unsupported claim that both of us are in error so let me help you take this to it's ultimate conclusion:
"IS SO, IS NOT, IS SO, IS NOT..." Now is you want to still make the claim this time us some evidence to prove your point. Let me warn you however I am looking at the message of the Bible not the wording of that message. you will have to show where, with evidence, that that message is corrupt.. As for me you are going to have to show where I disagree with that biblical message.. Good luck..
---I dunno--does the Bible really say the devils do GOOD works? Or is that more of your errant Bible-quoting?
Yes is a way it does.. But maybe you won't see it..
2 Cor 11:13-15
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
If they are transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness, then their works would also mimic works of righteousness.. But it would seem that those would be evil still there to make themselves look to be something they are not.. The ends of such works are the Lake of Fire.. So any work that tends to exalt a man instead of lifting up Jesus are such works.. Look good but are not the works of righteousness.
--Yeah, and the LDS ALSO believe that God is (metaphorically) one, but mere belief isn't enough to bring grace into effect on a person. The person ALSO needs to OBEY GOD. Which is something that the LDS think is pretty important, but apparently the devils (and maybe Calvinists) don't think is a big deal.
As James says.. Saving faith works, and as Paul says, works do not bring saving faith. God has no need to see your temple recommend or ***hing receipts. He doesn't need to see the neighborhood widow's sidewalks, cleared after each winters snow storm, or her lawn freshly cut and trimmed each week to see your faith.. I do and for those I see doing that with a oral testimony of Jesus also proclaimed to the world I see a Christian indeed. But what of the old man or woman who can barely move? What if the give me just that testimony of Jesus. I trust that God is in them and they give His love to all they meet.. Both meet the qualifications to become children of God.. But if the hold the Garden Gnome to be their Jesus that are as lost as the worst serial murderer that has ever walked the earth..
---Whatever is in my eye, it's seeing you misquote the Bible.
It's using terms like this that pot that LOG is your eye.. You seem to see the speck that you call misquotes in mine but then you quote Ezekiel 37 the way you do.. You won't even believe that God's interpretation is even close to the real meaning of the p***age.. This deny of yours could put us right back into that "IS SO, IS NOT" kind of argument.. I have shown where your interpretation is totally different than what God said it was you have only told me that I am wrong, without any authority to back up what you are insisting is the real interpretation.. That sound like you have a log and I have a speck to me..
--So you're claiming that if you make an ***ertion about what the Bible claims, and I look it up to prove that the Bible doesn't say what you ***erted that it claims, that I am breaking a rule? Hello, James: This isn't Carm. WM doesn't HAVE that rule you're thinking of.
You showed no interpretation that I have given that you proved wrong.. Mainly because in the case of the Ezekiel p***age I gave no interpretation but used God's instead. In the Isaiah p***age again I didn't interpret the p***age at all just said that neither the learned or the unlearned could read the book.. It is Smith that made an interpretation of that p***age not me..
I am not saying I never interpret scripture I just haven't done so in these two p***ages.. It is your religion that has done so.. You wish to follow the interpretation given by men, I am using the interpretation given by God.. And you call mine wrong.. Can you spell "Gullible" (The quality of readily believing information, truthful or otherwise, usually to an absurd extent.)? IHS jim