Anyone got some Biblical Proof that it's impossible for God to have a body?
Anyone got some Biblical Proof that it's impossible for God to have a body?
There is what Solomon said about the Temple.. How it couldn't contain Him (1 Kings 8:27).. If God were not a Spirit how is it that the Temple that Solomon built not contain Him? Just one more evidence from the Bible that God is indeed Spirit.. IHS jim
What if God is just really large, like the monster in "Cloverfield"? Solomon's temple couldn't contain that monster, either, so "temple can't contain" doesn't prove "no body."
What if? Did you just say "What If"? Why is it you are ready to toss away what the Bible teaches about God and try to make up your own God based on your own "what ifs".. The Bible says He is Spirit.. Solomon said that that the Spirit that is God was bigger then His small temple continuing saying that even the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain Him.. And you answer is to say that you think it means that He is a monster.. Well maybe as you stand before Him to b judged by your works, a lifetime of failure to keep His statutes you will see Him as a monster..
Those of us that are in Jesus will see Him as the loving Father He really wants to be.. IHS jim
"1 Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save, " IS:59
He gotta be big for His arm to reach from the Kolob system...
Good one, Mac. So, does anyone have anything that would convince LDS people that it is impossible for God to be a spirit with a body? You know, like His Son is? Of course, if Trinitarianism is true, then you already believe that God has a body, since one of the 3 Persons that make up God, does indeed have a body which was shown to many people--according to the Bible.
So maybe this thread is unnecessary, if you all already believe that God (at least one-third of what you believe to be God) has a body.
Maybe the whole issue is trivial, if it's just a matter of Trinitarians believing that 1/3 of God has a body, and LDS believing that 2/3 of God have bodies. What's the big deal about a mere fraction?
It has to do with knowing the true God and not the ravings of a false teacher.. A false teacher that taught a false God.. Holding a false God to be God is to deny eternal life to those that accept the false teaching:
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
If you deny the witness God gave of Himself you have turned to idols and as you turned to idols you turn away from eternal life.. That sounds pretty serious to me.. IHS jim
But it's the BIBLE that says that two of the 3 Persons are so much alike that it's hard to distinguish between them. Is the Bible the ravings of a madman?
THE BIBLE says that Jesus is like His Father in every way. Notice that it doesn't say that about the Holy Spirit. Hmmmm. Maybe there is some difference between The Holy Spirit, and the other two Persons. I wonder what that difference could be. Any guesses, Jim?
How one ever asked Jesus to show them the Holy Spirit.. Since He is God when you have seen Jesus (Who is God) you have also seen the Holy Spirit.. They are one in their BEING.. You are to into the physical here and not into the nature of the divine persons.. They are ALL alike in that nature.. God is Spirit, a spirit in invisible.. Jesus is NOT INVISIBLE.. He doesn't look like something that can't be seen by the eyes of flesh. He took on the same flesh that we walk in.. His nature reveals the Father as it reveals the Holy Spirit.. Jesus answered the question, He made it clear that He is the Mighty God, the everlasting Father.. Is there any dispute on that point? IHS jimBut it's the BIBLE that says that two of the 3 Persons are so much alike that it's hard to distinguish between them. Is the Bible the ravings of a madman?
THE BIBLE says that Jesus is like His Father in every way. Notice that it doesn't say that about the Holy Spirit. Hmmmm. Maybe there is some difference between The Holy Spirit, and the other two Persons. I wonder what that difference could be. Any guesses, Jim?
Ever heard the expression "Like Father, like Son?"... Jesus is NOT INVISIBLE.. He doesn't look like something that can't be seen by the eyes of flesh. He took on the same flesh that we walk in.. His nature reveals the Father as it reveals the Holy Spirit.. Jesus answered the question, He made it clear that He is the Mighty God, the everlasting Father.. Is there any dispute on that point? IHS jim
Why do you think that no other Christian church that I am aware of except the FLDS believe that God the Father has a body of flesh and bones and was a man on another planet?
AH, Godhead not God. Got it.
Curious though. Jesus humbled himself not thinking that being equal with God was not stealing from God humbled Himself and died on a cross for my sins and yours and was resureected on the thrid day defeating death, oh death where is thy sting, where O grave is thy victory? What the did the Father die for and what was the purpose for his early resurrection ahead of all of us carnalized spirit babies?
MacG
I think the reason that mainstream Christianity currently doesn't believe in this doctrine, is that it abandoned it back when it was being influenced by pagan theology.
Amen to all that. Well said. I wonder if the other implication in that p***age, is that just as Jesus didn't think it robbery to be equal with His Father, we should not think it robbery to want to become like Jesus.AH, Godhead not God. Got it. Curious though. Jesus humbled himself not thinking that being equal with God was not stealing from God humbled Himself and died on a cross for my sins and yours and was resureected on the thrid day defeating death, oh death where is thy sting, where O grave is thy victory?
The only info we have in the Bible on that, is Jesus saying that He only did what He saw His Father do, and the Bible verse that says that Jesus is like His Father in every way, which would mean that the Father is like Jesus in every way.What the did the Father die for and what was the purpose for his early resurrection ahead of all of us carnalized spirit babies?
Because this would of happened long after the OT and the NT were written don't you think that there would be some mention in the Bible that God the Father had a body of flesh and bone and that he was a man that lived on another planet?
Since when does becoming like Him equate to equal. Lots of things are like one another for instance Obama is like me however I will never be equal to him especially on the b-ball court.
Aw, why limit yourself to the deficient mistake ridden bible I know at least one of your Apostles thought that Adam was God the Father. What published TCJCLDS literature (paid for with your ***he money BTW) contradicts this prophetic utterance (prophecy in the preaching sense)?The only info we have in the Bible on that, is Jesus saying that He only did what He saw His Father do, and the Bible verse that says that Jesus is like His Father in every way, which would mean that the Father is like Jesus in every way.
MacG
How do you know that Jesus is equal to His Father in every way?
He probably cheats and plays dirty. He had that elbow coming to him.Lots of things are like one another for instance Obama is like me however I will never be equal to him especially on the b-ball court.
So I can support LDS doctrines with a book that you won't reject.Aw, why limit yourself to the deficient mistake ridden bible
You don't know that. You believe certain interpretations of what was reportedly said. McConkie, while an apostle, stated that Adam is a child of God the Father like the rest of us are. He said that the idea that Adam is Jesus and our "Father who art in heaven" is false doctrine and that any LDS who believes it's a true doctrine, is on the road to apostasy. I agree. But if you are not LDS, you are free to believe that Adam is your heavenly father, and there is nothing the LDS church can or will do to punish you for so believing.I know at least one of your Apostles thought that Adam was God the Father.
I have heard people say it normally about a criminal father so his son must be a criminal too. But try as I might I can't find this saying in the Bible.. Can you.. I am here to explain the problems of mormonism to mormons not to defend old sayings.. IHS jim
Are you calling Jesus' Father a criminal?
Are you calling Jesus a criminal? Why can't the expression "Like Father, like Son" be used as a reference to two GOOD people, to say that a Son is very good because He takes after His Father?so his son must be a criminal too.
Yes I can, because I am familiar with the Bible, so I will help you out:But try as I might I can't find this saying in the Bible.. Can you..
"God's Son has all the brightness of God's own glory and is like him in every way."
Hebrews 1:3 (Contemporary English Version)
Like Father, like Son.
"And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high" NASBAre you calling Jesus' Father a criminal?
Are you calling Jesus a criminal? Why can't the expression "Like Father, like Son" be used as a reference to two GOOD people, to say that a Son is very good because He takes after His Father?
Yes I can, because I am familiar with the Bible, so I will help you out:
"God's Son has all the brightness of God's own glory and is like him in every way."
Hebrews 1:3 (Contemporary English Version)
Like Father, like Son.
Brigham was an apostate?? TCJCLDS did not have hymns published that reinforced and encouraged one another with song in regards to Adam being God, well at least being Michael the Archangel?You don't know that. You believe certain interpretations of what was reportedly said. McConkie, while an apostle, stated that Adam is a child of God the Father like the rest of us are. He said that the idea that Adam is Jesus and our "Father who art in heaven" is false doctrine and that any LDS who believes it's a true doctrine, is on the road to apostasy. I agree. But if you are not LDS, you are free to believe that Adam is your heavenly father, and there is nothing the LDS church can or will do to punish you for so believing.
MacG