Quote Originally Posted by tealblue View Post
Saint Paul didn't think so.

1 cor 4:4 I am not conscious of anything against me, but I do not thereby stand acquitted; the one who judges me is the Lord.
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Therefore, do not make any judgment before the appointed time, until the Lord comes, for he will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will manifest the motives of our hearts, and then everyone will receive praise from God.

1 cor 9:27 No, I drive my body and train it, for fear that, after having preached to others, I myself should be disqualified

Not only did paul not think he was ***ured of salvation but he also thought that he could lose it.

Rom 11:22 See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity toward those who fell, but God's kindness to you, provided you remain in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off.

Paul also warn us of us too being cut off

Heb 10:26 If we sin deliberately after receiving knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins
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but a fearful prospect of judgment and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries.

Again we are warned that deliberate sin results in us being cut off.

He who endure till the end will be saved Matt 24

I know there is alot of scripture that says no one will take us out of Gods hands. I would say to that aslong as we remain in the eternal sonship of christ thats true but not if we turn away in sin.
Faith, hope, and love are the building blocks for peace, and serenity. This is the mark God has set for us. It is when we can claim this condition that we are 'truly' saved. It starts in this life, but it does not happen over night. A great deal of change, and growth must first take place within us. We must be willing to allow God to create His vessels. This is true salvation, and something few are ever developed into."

As for eternal life, I believe what Christ accomplished extends beyond our religious ideologies, and our personal beliefs (He is our salvation - None come to the father but through Him). I don't think it necessary to believe in the man Jesus however, but rather to have an indwelling of the Spirit/light/Word that He manifest....

We can attain the kingdom right here on earth [At least in part]. After death, I think we are granted access to the fullness of the kingdom, which [is] the unknown. It starts here with us, and within us. I was just thinking last night as I was drifting off to sleep - that the more each individual attains degree's of the "Kingdom condition" a little better does the world get.

It starts with us, right here on earth - Like a snowball, as each individual attains a Kingdom mindest, (Seek ye first the Kingdom of God) God's kingdom on earth increases. One day, I believe that the earth will be filled with God's children - Those who live and die for His purpose. I always want to go back to the Lords prayer - It is a beautiful prayer and it is quite telling of what is to come to p*** [imo]

"Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, they will be done on earth as it is is heaven"

GK