Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post
I was wondering--what do these words mean to you?:
Hebrews5:9--"And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;"The question is not who is the author of salvation--but why does this salvation go to those on condition of who obeys Him?
All that is true--but it still does not preclude the fact that the scripture specifically indicates it is those who obey God that receive of His grace.What it means is that we must believe in Jesus and we obey Him because we believe that He was sent by God the Father.
Which does little more than connect obedience with belief. What is your evidence that obedience to Jesus Christ is not an integral component of belief in Christ?
John 6:29 says:"Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that you believe on him whom He has sent."
[COLOR=#000000][LEFT]God works to create faith in His children, that is in Jesus Christ, because He has decreed salvation is by grace through faith.
Which in no way excludes the fact that faith without works is dead, or that this grace that saves does not go to the obedient in Christ.
Faith is absolutely essential, and so He works to create it in us, trusting His Son.Then what other things do you thing necessary for salvation that is inclusive in faith, other than confessing His name?We have to live by faith, not merely profess Jesus Christ.
And what are those things that comprise faith, that has to be "built" in us?It is necessary that faith be built in us, because our choices are to be made on the basis of faith.