The Mormon Dilemma

[DrDavidT]

Originally Posted by BigJulie

So, to you Christ in his prayer was not speaking to God and did not see God when he was transfigured. He was transfigured, why then? As we have other examples of Christ praying--why do you think he was transfigured this time? And why do you think the disciples heard God speak on this occasion? Do you think he was not there?

Not what I said at all. We do not know why he was transfigured and where in the text do you see it say he saw God? You like twisting people's words don't you. Seeing God at the transfiguration is not the topic of this thread.

[BigJulie]

Originally Posted by DrDavidT

Not what I said at all. We do not know why he was transfigured and where in the text do you see it say he saw God? You like twisting people's words don't you. Seeing God at the transfiguration is not the topic of this thread.

Okay, this is what we DO know...Christ went to the mount, he was transfigured, he spoke to Moses and Elijah, the apostles heard God say "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him."

As you noted, clearly Christ has prayed and spoken to God without being transfigured--but this time it was different. This time God spoke clearly to the apostles. This time Christ was transfigured. To me, the answer is obvious, I thought it was to you too, but you do not see it that way. Christ was speaking to ancient prophets and God face to face.

And "seeing God" is the topic of this thread. You believe this is a dilemma for Mormons. It is not. Stephen saw Christ standing on the right hand of God right before his death. Jesus Christ saw God (but even he had to be transfigured to do so.)

And if you look back into the Old Testament, you will see that God's "face" has been removed by translators. Look at the Hebrew version of Exodus 20:3