The Break Up of PANGEA, Genesis 10:25 and Pyramids Around The World

[jude1:3]

Ancient Serpent Worship:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_worship


*Revelation 12:3
And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having Seven Heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by jude1:3

*Revelation 12:3
And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having Seven Heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.

You know....there is another way to understand that verse that has nothing at all to do with snake worship, or the worship of false gods...

Have you ever had a look at the verse and took it to be talking about something in the "heaven" that it actually says it's talking about?

Im talking about the stars in the night sky.....or rather the constellations....the way people have come up with ways to group bunches of stars together in sections like "Orion and Taurus" etc.....

[jude1:3]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

You know....there is another way to understand that verse that has nothing at all to do with snake worship, or the worship of false gods...

Have you ever had a look at the verse and took it to be talking about something in the "heaven" that it actually says it's talking about?

Im talking about the stars in the night sky.....or rather the constellations....the way people have come up with ways to group bunches of stars together in sections like "Orion and Taurus" etc.....

That may be true.


I posted these images of "The Naga" usually found in India to show an interesting comparison of Pagan Idols with literal descriptions found in Revelation.

[alanmolstad]

I think it was back in the early 1970s when I first had to read parts of Rev 11 in a Bible cl*** study that i came to understand what i was reading was just a weird way of talking about the many different star constellations in the night sky.

[jude1:3]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

I think it was back in the early 1970s when I first had to read parts of Rev 11 in a Bible cl*** study that i came to understand what i was reading was just a weird way of talking about the many different star constellations in the night sky.

Revelation 12:3-4 desribes what Revelation 12:7-9 is describing. It calls the angels that fell with Satan "Stars".


3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. 4 His tail drew a third of the Stars of heaven and threw them to the earth.


7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by jude1:3

Revelation 12:3-4 desribes what Revelation 12:7-9 is describing. It calls the angels that fell with Satan "Stars".


3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. 4 His tail drew a third of the Stars of heaven and threw them to the earth.


7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Every time I read such Bible verses I find that to me personally it seems to be talking about the different star constellations in the sky and how they move and change in their appearance during the year and with the tilt of the earth how some will seem to disappear and some appear...


in fact, when you just go read the whole book of Revelation and start to note the listings that may be simply references to the stars that the writer would be seeing in the sky you find that a lot, ...a real lot of the stuff is just that...

Just references to the stars in his sky.



CONSIDER :
"Rev. 12:1-2 says, “And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 and she was with child; and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth."


The whole thing, from start to finish seems to me to be talking about a planet that is seen moving into a constellation and then moving out later during the year.


AND CONSIDER:
“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.”

To me, when I read that verse I always have the idea of a guy watching the rise of a new constellation at some point during the year.
I mean the guy was trapped on an island right?...so he would watch any new constellation rise up out of the sea ...





This points me to one of the key things I have always felt true about the book of revelation.

I dont think we should read it as some type of real eyewitness account of some type of real event that this guy saw.
I dont think we can read it as if the guy saw some type of thing craw out of the sea and so ran to his desk and started writing about it.

Rather I see it as a work of a writer that had some ideas that as he put them down on paper he used things around him in his writings and was inspired by many things that he saw in his life while on an island.

Mankind has been out under the stars for a long long time..
We have looked up at the stars and had them inspire us in many ways..
I believe this even is true for men in the Bible like Abraham...and here John.



Its sorta like -
"When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars"

[jude1:3]

More Scriptures referring to both Angels and Fallen Angels as "Stars" :



*Revelation 1:19-20
19 Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this. 20 The mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lamp stands: The seven Stars Are The Angels of the seven churches, and the seven lamp stands which you saw are the seven churches.




*Revelation 9:1
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw A Star fall from heaven unto the earth: and To Him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

[jude1:3]

The Pharaoh's mask had a hood like a cobra:

[jude1:3]

When Moses was bringing the children of Israel out of Egypt Pharaoh's Magicians were performing demonic magic :












The Punishment for Sorcerers is the Lake of Fire:

*Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, Sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

[jude1:3]

Oceanic Floor Plate Tectonics and Oceanic Drift:

[jude1:3]

[alanmolstad]

The Young earthers in the video clip above are why I have always told people here that Young Earth Creationism is very much like a CULT.

[alanmolstad]

In the video clip you see the two guys struggling to make a crazy idea appear in a better light.

Their idea is that all the lands split apart in one big movement.
They base this on nothing.

They base this only on the need they have for it to be true so that other ideas they have will work.

This is just like another crazy idea that have about the light in Genesis that has no source...
Their 'source-less light" idea is something they came up with because they needed it so that other ideas they have will not fall apart.

This is the same for all the YEC teachings.

They all are invented by men in order to keep their ideas from falling like a house of cards.




so yes, its a CULT.....

[jude1:3]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

This is the same for all the YEC teachings.

This Thread is Not about YEC. Please, (and I'm genuinely asking here) Please don't try to make this thread a YEC Debate. Start a thread in the evolution/creation section. Please and Thank You.

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by jude1:3

This Thread is Not about YEC. Please, (and I'm genuinely asking here) Please don't try to make this thread a YEC Debate. Start a thread in the evolution/creation section. Please and Thank You.

Let see...whatrs tyhe ***le of this topic again?

"The Break Up of PANGEA, Genesis 10:25 and Pyramids Around The World"


and what was that video posted last week again about ?

Originally Posted by jude1:3

Seems to me that someone else has sure wanted to sneak in a bit of Creationism on us does it not?

[jude1:3]

You are being very inconsiderate.

You believe and push evolution so you have proven yourself untrustworthy.

[alanmolstad]

I always will speak up whenever I see the camel's nose of Young Earth Creationism sneaking under the Christian tent...

YEC is very much like a CULT as you can see in the video clip you posted.

The guys clearly are inventing junk and twisting things in order to make it agree with the teachings they want to push on us....


But I think we are smarting than they expect....

[jude1:3]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

I always will speak up whenever I see the camel's nose of Young Earth Creationism sneaking under the Christian tent...

YEC is very much like a CULT as you can see in the video clip you posted.

The guys clearly are inventing junk and twisting things in order to make it agree with the teachings they want to push on us....


But I think we are smarting than they expect....

You're trying to decieve people into believing evolution and I hope you fail.

[alanmolstad]

Im only showing that if you just stick to the text of Genesis as written you will not find squat to support the Young earth teachings.

You also will not find support for the idea that Genesis 10 is talking about the break up of a large land m***.....

Nor do you find any support in the Bible for much of anything that the two guys in the video are talking about...

[jude1:3]

Debate thread opened in other section.

[DrDavidT]

there is absolutely no evidence for a super continent that split into the continents we have today.

[alanmolstad]

oh I think there is...based on the manner that the current continents are shaped and fit so nice with each other...

[DrDavidT]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

oh I think there is...based on the manner that the current continents are shaped and fit so nice with each other...

That means absolutely nothing and in looking at what jude posted it is amazing there still a discussion going on with this topic. The verse 'he named him Peleg because the world was divided in his time' (paraphrase) can and most likely refers to the events of Babel and the disporia not a break up of a super continent.

As for animals being located in only a few or one geographical location, the explanations are easy and logical-- over-hunting, being one of them

[DrDavidT]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

oh I think there is...based on the manner that the current continents are shaped and fit so nice with each other...

That means absolutely nothing and in looking at what jude posted it is amazing there still a discussion going on with this topic. The verse 'he named him Peleg because the world was divided in his time' (paraphrase) can and most likely refers to the events of Babel and the disporia not a break up of a super continent.

As for animals being located in only a few or one geographical location, the explanations are easy and logical-- over-hunting, being one of them

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by DrDavidT

That means absolutely nothing and in looking at what jude posted it is amazing there still a discussion going on with this topic.

I was unaware the topic was still going on, as I believe I have answered it sufficiently .