The Earth is not Flat.

[Christodoulos]

Originally Posted by disciple

Christodoulos,

I can tell the difference though, between an amb***ador for Christ and an amb***ador for self. Your prideful at***ude does nothing to build up the body of Christ, it seems your only desire is to be right. Soon you will begin to call people who don't agree with you blasphemers and idiots. It is good to discuss the scriptures and to challenge ideas that do not line up with God's word but not with arrogance. Everyone's knowledge is not at the same level. Perhaps if you studied a little more.....

Pushing the six day creation story on everyone and then accusing them of not being faithful to scripture, is pure arrogance and yes,stupidity.

"Perhaps if I studied a little more,,, "

It's because I have studied "a little more" that I can tell you that the six day creation story is an allegorical /poetic two chapters, that can't be considered scientifically accurate.

If you can't understand that ,then all I can say, is that you've been hanging around with the ICR crowd of flat earthers.

So, maybe you should study how the scriptures were written ,how ,when and why.. for starters.

and you're no amb***ador ..

[disciple]

Originally Posted by Christodoulos

Pushing the six day creation story on everyone and then accusing them of not being faithful to scripture, is pure arrogance and yes,stupidity.

"Perhaps if I studied a little more,,, "

It's because I have studied "a little more" that I can tell you that the six day creation story is an allegorical /poetic two chapters, that can't be considered scientifically accurate.

If you can't understand that ,then all I can say, is that you've been hanging around with the ICR crowd of flat earthers.

So, maybe you should study how the scriptures were written ,how ,when and why.. for starters.

and you're no amb***ador ..

Hi Christodoulos,

So is your test to take scripture literally based on scientific accuracy? How does science view the virgin birth or the resurrection? How about walking on water or feeding 5000 with a few fish and loaves? I don't pretend to understand everything in the Bible but putting faith in the theories of men is easy, people do it every day.
Putting faith in what God says, the unseen, the not scientifically accurate is not so easy. If you want everything to be scientifically accurate, how do you know you are born again?
God is the One who created time and space and gravity and physics and every scientific principle and law we know, I see no good reason to doubt six day creation, especially any reason based on the theories of those who don't believe in Him anyway.
Also, if I am not an amb***ador it is to my shame, I will try to do better.

[Christodoulos]

Originally Posted by disciple

Hi Christodoulos,

So is your test to take scripture literally based on scientific accuracy? How does science view the virgin birth or the resurrection? How about walking on water or feeding 5000 with a few fish and loaves? I don't pretend to understand everything in the Bible but putting faith in the theories of men is easy, people do it every day.
Putting faith in what God says, the unseen, the not scientifically accurate is not so easy. If you want everything to be scientifically accurate, how do you know you are born again?
God is the One who created time and space and gravity and physics and every scientific principle and law we know, I see no good reason to doubt six day creation, especially any reason based on the theories of those who don't believe in Him anyway.
Also, if I am not an amb***ador it is to my shame, I will try to do better.

but sadly for you,that's not what I've been saying. It may be what you think I've been saying ,but that's because you're not reading well.

By the way ,explain where the Black race came from or from whom it descended from. Or the white race for that matter.
you seem to be ignoring my question here, amb***ador.

[disciple]

Originally Posted by Christodoulos

but sadly for you,that's not what I've been saying. It may be what you think I've been saying ,but that's because you're not reading well.

By the way ,explain where the Black race came from or from whom it descended from. Or the white race for that matter.
you seem to be ignoring my question here, amb***ador.

I will answer based on my belief that the scriptures are literal. So first we would have to ask what did Adam and Eve look like? Obviously, their genes, carried all traits humans have today and probably other traits that have since disappeared. Many of their genes were not visible because other genes dominated and I think perhaps humans degenerated in many ways because of the effects of sin. We usually imagine Adam and Eve as looking like ourselves. However, for genetic reasons, Adam and Eve were not “white” or “black” but something in between. Adam’s skin coloring may have been similar to that of Native Americans. I’m guessing. So where do different colors of skin come from?
I think people adapted to where they lived after the flood. For example, fair-skinned people living near the equator are more susceptible to several health risks, such as skin cancer. Consequently, they have slightly less chance of living to reproductive age and p***ing on genes for light skin color to their children. Likewise, darker-skinned people absorb less sunlight, depriving them of vitamin D3, which forms in skin exposed to sunlight. In some la***udes, this could cause health problems. Therefore, over many generations, dark-skinned people tend to live near the equator and light-skinned people tend to live at higher la***udes. I see this as a good example of microevolution. I also think people seem to “like” people more similar to themselves so people probably separated according to their features and tone of skin.

[Christodoulos]

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Originally Posted by disciple

I will answer based on my belief that the scriptures are literal. So first we would have to ask what did Adam and Eve look like? Obviously, their genes, carried all traits humans have today and probably other traits that have since disappeared. Many of their genes were not visible because other genes dominated and I think perhaps humans degenerated in many ways because of the effects of sin. We usually imagine Adam and Eve as looking like ourselves. However, for genetic reasons, Adam and Eve were not “white” or “black” but something in between. Adam’s skin coloring may have been similar to that of Native Americans. I’m guessing. So where do different colors of skin come from?
I think people adapted to where they lived after the flood. For example, fair-skinned people living near the equator are more susceptible to several health risks, such as skin cancer. Consequently, they have slightly less chance of living to reproductive age and p***ing on genes for light skin color to their children. Likewise, darker-skinned people absorb less sunlight, depriving them of vitamin D3, which forms in skin exposed to sunlight. In some la***udes, this could cause health problems. Therefore, over many generations, dark-skinned people tend to live near the equator and light-skinned people tend to live at higher la***udes. I see this as a good example of microevolution. I also think people seem to “like” people more similar to themselves so people probably separated according to their features and tone of skin.

And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds—livestock and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds.” And it was so. 25 And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that creeps on the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, “Let us make man[h] in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

So where did the Black Race come from? Do you normally do a lot of GUESSING???

Are you saying Blacks came about as a result of "when sin entered the world?"
Do Blacks represent man's sinful nature?

We know people have children that resemble their parents.
Yeppers : you are part of the idiotic ICR crowd of flaT EARTHERS..

bLACKS HAVE CHILDREN THAT RESEMBLE their parents ,married or not.

How did the first pair of black male and female parents come about?

How did the first pair of Blacks appear who were genetically pure black in order to produce other pure blacks?

You see how crazy you are ?

[alanmolstad]

Im not sure where you guys are headed?

[disciple]

So where did the Black Race come from? Do you normally do a lot of GUESSING???

I gave you my answer. Just being honest.

Are you saying Blacks came about as a result of "when sin entered the world?"
Do Blacks represent man's sinful nature?

Not saying that, but of course you already knew that.

We know people have children that resemble their parents.

What happens when one parent is dark skinned and one is light skinned? Hmmm

Yeppers : you are part of the idiotic ICR crowd of flaT EARTHERS..

I don’t even know who the ICR crowd is and I told you that soon you would be
calling people idiots.

bLACKS HAVE CHILDREN THAT RESEMBLE their parents ,married or not.
How did the first pair of black male and female parents come about?

Perhaps you could tell us.

How did the first pair of Blacks appear who were genetically pure black in order to produce other pure blacks?

Please tell us, I’m sure you have a scientifically accurate answer.

You see how crazy you are ?

I see from all of your posts that you feel anyone who doesn’t agree with you is crazy.

[Christodoulos]

ICR= The Ins***ute for creation research. A gang of pure swindlers pretending to be only self recognized biologists , astronomers physicists and so on..

The answers to all YOUR questions can be found in any high school level human evolutionary biology textbook. Try reading one for a change.

[alanmolstad]

I do not get where our conversation is going with all this chat about black people?

Perhaps a different topic might better here?

[Christodoulos]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

I do not get where our conversation is going with all this chat about black people?

Perhaps a different topic might better here?

Not a lot of chat.. Just a question for disciple to explain the origin of the various race in existence. today. The scriptures

do not refer to various races resulting from one set of parents. Too hot to handle?

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by Christodoulos

Not a lot of chat.. Just a question for disciple to explain the origin of the various race in existence. today. The scriptures

do not refer to various races resulting from one set of parents. Too hot to handle?

The scriptures are to help us find salvation and to learn about God, for it is His revelation to us and aside from it we would know nothing of God.

But the scriptures are not here to answer every question we can ask of them,,,
The Bible does not answer every question we can dream up to ask.

The Bible only speaks on things it speaks on, and thats about it..


So you cant dream up a question about the color of people and when you fail to find a clear answer to your question in the Bible , try to say that means something significant.


The Bible is not here to provide all the answers...