Global Warming

[Trinity]

Originally Posted by Columcille

Matthew 12.30:
Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. I was of course paraphrasing it from memory, but it is to demonstrate the relationship of real value over rhetoric which wants to p*** itself off as "moderate" or "centrist." The problem with post-modernism is it judges everything by ****ing arguments out of proportion by appealing to emotion and intent. What gets people in trouble is when they do not read past the language to the core... this is why we get a radical prochoicer as Obama in the white house. His rhetoric is clothed in some comp***ionate concern, deminishing the horror of his support of even refusing medical attention to children that survived induced botched up abortions. What was his statement, "that nobody is really pro-abortion?" Then you get some crook who scams 50 billion because he was judged by the way he presented himself as a philanthropist, a big donor to the Democrat party, and his demeanor fooled them all. Amazing.

Thank you for the quote from the bible.

Benito Mussolini, the duce, has declared in his speeches across fascist Italy: "O con noi o contro di noi"--You're either with us or against us. The same words can have two different meanings, depending on who is speaking.

I also like this one: "...for whoever is not against us is for us."

I like this quote because it helps me to not see enemies everywhere.

This thread is first about Global Warming, and this issue is based on scientific facts and by worldwide scientific observations. Even Mr. Bush is now confessing that we are in a real environmental mess.

At any rate, we were once children and as such your quote applied to our fathers at one time. True conservativism is neither borrowing from our children or given by our fathers before us. True conservativism is principle. We are taught by good parents that we are to spend what we already have, not what is expected or based on credit. Some are even taught we should live within our means. Congress does not do this. They base it on projections and not what is already in the coffers. Some States require by law to maintain a balanced budget, but it is based on expectations, and if those expectations are not met, you are going to get in trouble. So we have as a conservative principle fiscal responsibilities. Then there is the conservation of life, as such... abortion is absolutely evil. How can we borrow the world from children that are being aborted? Conservation of energy is conservative, yet it is not the end all be all. We must use energy to stay warm, travel, and operate our infrastructure. I should say the most ultra-conservative would have to be the Amish, and not Al Gore flying on private jets and his gluttonous lavish energy consuming homes.

Well, it is difficult to blame the democrats for everything when the conservatives have governed the country for decades. Twenty-eight years during the last forty-five years. Or 62% of the mandates.

In all things conservative, it is the principles in action that help create safety, security, and generates healthy lifestyles for the family unit. Liberalism seeks to approve of gay marriage, killing the unborn, tax the rich until there is equality (Obama's "spread the wealth" comment to Joe the Plummer is a great eye opener of a liberal), and spend money on en***lements for their voting constintuency. America did not become a great superpower for its socialism, capitalism is conservative. A strong military that is subject to civil authorities is conservative, else we learn in history that a strong military not subject to civil authorites tends to be subjected more to coup detats. Making profits by compe***ion is conservative, monopolies' profits tend to become greedy. If politicians would change their economic policies based on what is tangible from last years taxes, like what every responsible citizen must do, we would not have to worry about all the problems we are facing now. Now in regards to global warming and environmentalism, their ideals are become religious. Your scare mentality is no worse than Jonathan Edward's "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God." If discussion for progress is going to happen... then the best method I can think of fits the phrase best "slow is smooth, smooth is fast;" meaning the scare mentality of global warming must not take to extremes but operate slowly and calmly. When it is smooth, it will get to its objectives much faster, just as elementary students working in groups are told that the first group that gets the project done right gets an external reward just happens to take a lot longer to get that objective done right because they do not really take the time to slowly think the problems out. Ok, I think I have vented enough so far.

Are you implying that there is no gays, abortions, or crooks among the conservatives?

Anyway, have a Merry Christmas for you and your beloved wife.

Trinity