The three Jewish Temples.

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by johnd

Again...

{sigh}

The Bible math is not a failure.

All people that attempt to do "Bible math" will fail!

Oh they pat themselves on the back for being able to screw with the numbers to make things work out for stuff in the past...LOL

Oh they love to say that added up this number to that number,then subtracted the number of hairs on the 2nd knuckle of their left hand, then added the number of licks to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll and ended up with the date for the start of WW2.

It means NOTHING!

You give me any date and i bet i can find ways to add up different verses in the Bible to come up with any date you want to pick.

So Bible Math of the past is meaningless.

The Bible Math that i speak of is where people try to add up numbers and get to some type of date in the future.

The name "Miller" comes to mind.

This is why i never get mixed up in End Time conversations.
The reason is, that one thing leads to another, and before you know it you hear someone make the claim that they have 'unlocked" the meaning of the End Times verses, and by doing some math have come up for the date of the end of the world.

Sooner or later it always happens, and it always ends in FAIL

[johnd]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

It means NOTHING!

...to you. I respect your ability to choose.

I am quite frustrated with your lack of respect for others to choose to believe what is in the Bible...

The 360 day year,
The Jewish calendar dates the two temples were destroyed
The use of simple math to come up with this biblical clue.

I mean, any one can say what you said and offer no proof or evidence to the contrary of what I stated. None. You just yammered on about math and failure.

Yes men have failed with math they misinterpreted.... that is not proof I did.

Again... 665.666666666667 is puhretty close to the subject at hand would you not agree?

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by johnd

Again... 665.666666666667 is puhretty close to the subject at hand would you not agree?

no its pointless and meaningless...

You can find ways to come up with any number you want as long as you know in advance what number you seek to end up at.

There are books connecting the layout of the Pyramids in Egypt and stars in the sky....or with different craters on the moon....or with , etc, etc, etc...

The trick is that as long as you know the outcome design (or the final number you seek to end up with) you can look around and find things to add up or point to that can get you the final result you are seeking to prove.

If you want to prove that the Bible predicts the day the Beatles came out with their WHITE album, Im sure that you can add up some verses, or some statements about this or that made in the Bible, subtract the number of times something else appears, and end up with the final date you were seeking from the start..

All you have to know a head of time is what day or number you want to end up at (1968) and you will know when you are done doing the Bible math....LOL
So you keep dreaming up ways to do Bible Math until you get to the magic number you knew in advance as being 1968, and and when your Bible Math gets you to that magic number you STOP!.....

But lets say you are sincere.

Lets say that you want to end up with some real "proof" that your Bible math system is correct.

Lets also say you seek to make a good-faith effort to show you are correct.

In that case,if you really want to know if your own Bible Math is truly something correctly drawn from the bible?...then try to predict something you dont know the final date for!

Thats how you put your own Bible Math to the test!

Predict something in the as-yet unknown future and then you have proved your system.
You want proof, and there's the way to get it.

Now, many guys do this too as we have seen over the years.
Lots of guys add up all kinds of numbers in the bible to come up with the date for the return of Christ, or the date of the Anti-Christ, etc.

What we always see is the same result of doing such future bible math.
They all FAIL.

They always predict a date in the near-future based on their 100% guaranteed Bible Math system, and in the end their predicted date will always Fail.
They always fail,

and they always end up with egg on their faces.

Some learn their lessons (Chuck Smith).

But a lot of other guys just look at the failure and rather than learn the lesson from it, they turn around and believe that the "Bible Math concept" was correct, but the numbers used were the only error.

Some guys believe that they have discovered the true way to add up the correct numbers to come up with the correct date...

Thus, the next Harold Camping is always getting warmed up in the Bible Math on-deck circle.

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

Predict something in the as-yet unknown future and then you have proved your system.


You want proof, and there's the way to get it.

.....

What I am talking about in the above quote is that there is a very real way to put your numbering systems to the test.
It is a way that has worked over and over for a long-long time.

What we do is take whatever numbering system you are promoting, be it a way to add up numbers that appear in the Bible, or add up Text locations, or use a dart board and a blind dart-tossing monkey, and see if under that system you can predict a single future date?

My point is that anyone can take a known date in history and find ways to end up at that date by doing Bible math.

As long as you know the answer at the start you can find many easy means to arrive at that answer.

But finding a result where you dont already know the answer?....Ahh that's different!


This is why we know that many religious prophets of the past are now believed to be "False Prophets", because their predictions did not come to p***.

The Jehovah's Witnesses have a False Prophet in their founder based on the past that things he predicted did not come to p***.

The Mormons too.

Even Newton!

In fact, any person that teaches their Bible Math can come up with a date for a future events needs to be put to the test like this so that we all can see if they know what they are talking about, or are just pulling dates out of their backside?

[asdf]

Originally Posted by johnd

Again... 665.666666666667 is puhretty close to the subject at hand would you not agree?

Not even slightly—for all the reasons alanmolstad articulated, as well as your failure to even bother to try to substantiate your calculations.

Originally Posted by asdf

Further down the rabbit hole we go...

Are you now positing yet a third type of year needed to make your calculations work—a Hebrew year, a 'Gentile' year, and a 'prophetic' year?

It's a pretty interesting hypothesis, I must say—but I'm still holding out judgment until I see the evidence laid out.