Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post
Infants are not condemned--
Billyray---If they are perfect and not condemned then they don't need the atonement of Christ. Right?
dberrie---I'm really amazed at your comments. If it were not for the Atonement--then all would be condemned. Have you not read the scriptures:

Romans5:18--"Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life."
Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
If Christ did not atone for our sins then a baby would be condemned. Why would that baby be condemned? What is the reason exactly?
I'm wondering what it is about our conversation you are missing?

In the Fall of mankind--death and hell were brought to all mankind as a condemnation. They suffered physical death and spiritual death--no matter what their faith in God was.

Jesus Christ abridged that gap from God when Adam and Eve were expelled from His presence, -the blood Atonement for the sins of the world(Adam's included), and His resurrection for physical death.

That opened the doors to eternal life for all mankind, as an opportunity, and conquered physical death through His resurrection.

That is what is commonly referred to as the Redemption of mankind. That is the reason that Jesus Christ is commonly referred to as the Redeemer, and the Savior of mankind.

That act insured all that the condemnation incurred through the Fall would have no effect on them, as far as the opportunity to inherit eternal life is concerned.

Now, all mankind are born saved, without any condemnation placed upon them due to the Fall.

Billray--your theology that all infants are sinners is a false and pernicious doctrine.

All infants are born saved--due to the work of the Savior. They are not sinners, as you maintain, and no one who understands the gospel of Jesus Christ would ever attach that label to an infant.