Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
Can an adult with normal mental capacity be saved by grace without both faith and works?
No. There is no such thing as faith without works except dead faith. Grace does not flow through dead faith.

Obedience to Jesus Christ is an integral component to Faith. To separate them would be likened to the result of removing a heart from a living human.
Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
So faith and works ARE required for exaltation.
Yes. That has never been argued by me. It's just not what saves one--obedience to Christ is the reason God extends His grace--through faith, which includes obedience to Christ.

Thus the scripture:

Ephesians2:8--"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:"

That is likened unto me asking you if you believed faith was required for eternal life.


The only connection left to answer now is--does faith have obedience to Christ as it's integral component?