Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
So is "born of flesh" physical birth or water baptism?
Billyray, you are not making your point---you are ignoring the many times water is used in Hebrew and exactly what it means. Nicodemus knew this and Christ spoke to him as someone who knows this....this is why when Nicodemus asked him "can I re-enter my mother's womb"--Christ responded "your a master in Israel and do not understand this?" Clearly, Nicodemus knew what baptism was and what it meant.