I first apologize for highjacking this thread. I have been in the process for the past few months relocating overseas and have not had the time.Greetings & Blessings.
Columcille, you are not being very nice, nor respectful....and a whole paragraph at that. I will refer you to read Jill's latest post.
In regards to the Intermediate State, so far you have not presented any specific Scriptural support or basis for this teaching. You have listed and provided "points" in an effort to try and prove a "concept", an "agnostic reticence." I have addressed and answered all of your points in my posts, and by your own words...
"I don't have to explain away the Intermediate State, I only state that there is one."
Your above statement is clear, and I think that you've explained this as fully as is possible...which is not.
Blessings...Dmarie
I realize there are a few referances that seem to point to the idea of absence from the body and present with the lord. Well who says that purgatory wouldn't still be in the presence of jesus. As far as I know any non presence of god in general would be hell. Becasue thats what hell is.
Here are two facts I would like to share with you.
1. There will be no suffering in Heaven.
2. Nothing inpure will enter into heaven.
1Cor 3
14If the work stands that someone built upon the foundation, that person will receive a wage. 15But if someone’s work is burned up, that one will suffer loss; the person will be saved,* but only as through fire.
Here are a couple of facts about this p***age.
1. The person descibed here is not on earth because its talking about judgement.
2. The person is not in heaven because its describing suffering loss and still being saved. And we know there will be no suffering in heaven.
So if this verse is desribing some sort of state thats not on earth or in heaven where(what state) are they?





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