Quote Originally Posted by disciple View Post
Hi TD,

Interesting view, but how do you come to the conclusion that the "wrath" in these verses is referring to the lake of fire? Hardship and suffering are part of the human condition, both the saved and the unsaved go through them. The saved person is declared righteous and has been justified, suffering and hardship do not enhance these positions. Does God allow suffering, hardships and does He chastise the saved? Yes. Wrath is not chastisment or hardship or persecution, wrath is vengance and condemnation. There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
Your contrariness doesn't prove anything except that you didn't read what I wrote carefully enough.
TD