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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxon View Post
    To merely believe in Christ will save you, even the Bible points this out.
    No... Only your interpretation of the Bible is all. Luckily you have been unable to even convince your own fellow Christians of this nonsense. Which is why I wonder why you are here? Do you believe the Mormons are more gullible than they are?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saxon View Post
    Demons are not creatures of faith. The fact that they are not saved is because there is no faith in them.
    Wait a minute, look at your thread ***le, there is nothing in it about faith, or grace.... just believe. You seem to be changing your tune once the fallacy of your theology has been exposed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saxon View Post

    You are totally out of touch with the Bible. Show me where God is ever obligated to save anyone whether they believe, have faith or do all the works that the LDS leaders place on everyone?
    I never said anything about obligation, that is your strawman that you created in order to divert attention from your failed argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saxon View Post
    God is never ever obligated to save anyone. That is why all the works in all the time God grants us life on the Earth will never be enough to merit salvation
    True, but that has nothing to do with your ***ertion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saxon View Post
    Believe is one term and be and live are two different terms. You are not amusing.
    I actually meant to be amusing, however the problem is that you did not write "Believe"
    The fact that this went right over your head only demonstrates your inability to comprehend the simplist of statements, let alone something complicated like the Bible.


    Quote Originally Posted by Saxon View Post
    Show me where I have added all kinds of belief requirements and actions in order to gain salvation.
    You stated all one had to do is to believe to be saved...
    Its been put forward to you numerous times that we as Mormons believe in the Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible, ergo... We are saved, right?
    If not, why not?

    This is where you then start adding on all kinds of qualifiers and actions we as Mormons must first do to be saved. Anyone who has read this thread can see your hypocrisy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saxon View Post
    That is not my problem that there are churches that I consider to be Christian that believe Mormons to be Christians, it is their problem.
    This just points to another one of your hypocrisies. 85% of people who call themselves Christian see Faith Alone AKA, "Cheap Grace" as a heresy, yet you still see them as saved. In fact, if you truely believe that works has nothing to do with salvation, then the fact that we and the vast majority of Christian faiths believe they do, and practice such; will not in any way change whether we are saved or not.... So why bother telling us about it, if it changes nothing anyway.

    The way I see it, is if we are right in that we need both works and faith to be saved, then we will be saved if we have both, yet you will not be saved because you lack works.
    On the other hand if you are right and faith/belief is all that was needed to be saved, then we are still saved because we still at least have faith....

    It's a win-win for us, as we have both bases covered.
    However, you've only got 50%-50% chance at salvation.
    Last edited by theway; 04-12-2015 at 11:46 AM.

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