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yes, the cross.
the invitation of the cross is for all men...
God loved the whole world...that he sent his son...that they who believe...
You are saying that the invitation to salvation for all men is the cross. You believe that not all men are capable of answering the call to salvation because of Gods plan to save a hand picked few. This is a belief in FATE, not faith.
Fate noun
1. The supposed force, principle, or power that predetermines events: Fate did not favor his career.
2. a. The inevitable events predestined by this force: It was her fate to marry a lout.
b. A final result or consequence; an outcome: What was the fate of your project?
c. An unfavorable outcome in life; doom or death: suffered a fate worse than death; the island where the explorer met his fate.
3. Fates Greek & Roman Mythology The three goddesses, Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos, who control human destiny. Used with the
Does God love the world or does he not? If God has offered salvation to one man, he has also offered it to all men. There is nothing in the scriptures that suggest that all men could not have come to salvation. It does strongly indicate that all men will not come to salvation. This is an enormous difference in thought.
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o God loved the whole world and to the whole world got sent his son....yet while the cross is "sufficient” to save the whole world, it is "efficient' to save only they that believe...
walter martin gave me that...LOL
Efficient has nothing to do with sufficient. If the cross is sufficient then it is able to save all men. Efficient to save only those that believe is a statement that says nothing about the question at hand. It is redundant seeing that the condition for salvation is faith exercised by believing. If one doesn't believe then God does not save. God does not hand pick the ones that are saved. there is nothin in the Bible that says that.
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