Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
Adam did not change physically after he sinned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




WHAT?!


Yep,look it up...
Adam did not change physically...nothing bad happened to his body...he did not degenerate.


Lots of people think that something changed within Adam (like his DNA) when he sinned...that suddenly he "became mortal".....

But this idea is wrong!


"Wrong Alan? How can it be wrong,if that is what so many Christians and other religions believe?"

Well kids its wrong because the idea that Adam suddenly "became mortal" is not based on the text of the Bible.

The idea that after Adam sinned he changed and became mortal is an invented idea.




Want to prove this for yourself?
...good!
Just answer this one question.

" Why did Adam die?"


Did God kill Adam?
Does the Bible tell us that God killed Adam?

No the Bible does not say that God had to kill Adam at all..



So why did Adam die?....the answer is this...




Adam died ONLY because he did not eat of the tree of life.

Thats the answer.

That also is the ONLY answer found in the Bible.

All the other answers you hear listed in your church, (regardless of your religion) are false.
They are invented to make the story agree with some teaching that they also hold.

But if you stick to only what you can prove in the Bible, then the only reason the Bible lists as to why Adam,(and all his children to this very day) will die is that before Adam could get over to the Tree Of Life and eat and live forever, he got kicked out.


Its that simple.


So lets just look at the text and read what it says.

The Text tells us that if Adam would have eaten of the Tree Of Life he would live forever.

This means that at the time God kicked Adam out, Adam had not yet eaten.

This means that Adam was still in his "natural" condition.
Adam was still the way God had made him....and in order for Adam to live forever he needed to eat of the tree of life.....

So mankind was not created in a natural state with the natural ability to live forever.

Humans were not created with a body that would naturally live forever.
(That's going to shake up a few people I know, but this is the facts of the text)...

We humans were not created with bodies that would naturally last forever, and that is why God gave us the tree of Life, so we all could eat of it and all of us live forever.


This also is why the Bible tells us that all death came to us from Adam....Because of the sin and the fact that Adam got the boot we still share the mortal state that Adam was created within,and because Adam was not allowed to eat of the tree of life we share in the death that we get via Adam....

Had Adam not sinned, we would be able to be born and eat of the tree of life.

But because of the sin of Adam, death rules us.

As usual you fail to take into account what the Bible says. It is clear that sin was not in the world until Adam ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. When God made everything he declared it "good".(See Genesis 1) I am sure that sin is not good.

Romans 5:12 states that sin entered into the world, and death by sin. Death was not in the world until Adam sinned. The wages of SIN is death. (See Romans 6:23) Death was not a part of the world, it did not exist until Adam brought sin into the world, and with sin, death entered into the world. If Adam had not sinned, there is no indication that Adam would have died. Read up on the tree of life. It will be in heaven but eternal life is in Jesus Christ; not a tree.

Genesis 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Genesis 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:12 And the earth brought forth gr***, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.


Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death p***ed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord