Quote Originally Posted by Sentinus View Post
First off define "Exist". And ask yourself if God didn't think you existed would you?

One thing I like about the Endowment is that first all things were created spiritually and then realized physically only after the spiritual creation. One must think of something before one can create. For most the very idea that God thought of us is the definition of pre-existent life. To most Mainstreamers I know "Nothing" exists outside of God.. Hence the belief of creation ex nilio. This idea of creating from nothing makes absolutely no sense to us as "reasonable" and "logical" human beings. It forces us to wonder "How can something come from nothing?" and then we have people who later come along and say that since its illogical it MUST be false. This is why you can't grasp that "Good" and "Evil" are only definitions applied by finite beings and is why you cannot grasp "Something" from "Nothing". You and many, many people LDS and Non want to impose mans finite reasoning onto an infinite God. It just doesn't work, and IMO NEVER will.

Kind regards,
Sentinus
It seems youwould claim creation ex nihilo was and then came a creation out of something. Such is not the case--creation ex nihilo doesn't really appear until much later in time. But I ask for you to prove your ***ertion--that creation ex nihilo was then came an alternative. We can go from there in any sort of investigation. It seems to me,as I said before, creation ex nihilo wasn't adopted as officially Christian dogma until hundreds of years after Christ.

love,
stem