Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
Unfortunately BigJ I agree with you. I feel that I have been generous with other Christian's point of view and have clearly stated that we differ on certain aspects and that I understand and respect their point of view. Erik and Sword have taken it upon themselves to prove me wrong with a vengeance. They have made it personal and it is quite obvious.
Billy, cool down. It is not vengeance nor personal. Sometimes we Christians can be mistaken and in our pride we close our minds. You had posted (unfortunately I could not find this post. perhaps it was in a thread that has been deleted) but you wrote that YOU were regenerated BEFORE you got saved. You also posted a list of requirements where it showed that one must be regenerated before one can proceed on to the next step which is conversion (faith and repentance). Therefore, you believe conversion and regeneration are two separate things. They are not.

I asked you for the scripture verses where you believe it teaches regeneration precedes faith. You didn't give any. I believe you are a Christian Billy, but you have some beliefs that conflict with the Scriptures.

The Philippian jailer asked, "What must I do to be saved?" (Acts 16:30). If Paul had been a Calvinist he might have said, "You can do nothing to be saved, absolutely nothing. You are dead in sin and a dead man can do nothing. If God doesn't regenerate you, then you are doomed." But Paul said nothing at all like this. His answer was very different: He said: "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved" (Acts 16:31).