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    Quote Originally Posted by asdf View Post
    1. It's illegal.
    1. In some places. Do you claim there are no laws which sanction it ?

    2. It's immoral.
    I completely agree.

  2. It leads to bad intelligence, corrupts good intelligence, and confessions stemmed from torture are inadmissible in court.
Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, no.

Some people who are tortured sometimes end up confessing the truth.

  • It damages respect and rapport for the US abroad, both among allies and enemies.
  • I agree.

  • It puts our troops in greater danger of being tortured when they are captured as POWs.
  • I agree.

  • It damages our credibility to condemn torture when done by other regimes.
  • Heh, I'm not sure our credibility can get much worse with some people, but I'm willing to believe that is possible.

  • It disrespects the humanity of all involved - the torturer, the victim, and the leadership and society that gives its approval.
  • I agree.

    Questions?
    I have one on the tip of my tongue:

    Where do YOU draw the line between torture and the pain that comes from God helping someone to see their condition after they have refused God's help from our Savior ?

    Comments?
    I generally agree with the general content of your message, but I'm not sure if we agree on every specific.

    Ideas for what should be done to repair the damage done by those in the US government who authorized torture?
    Repentance and forgiveness by those who have the love of God in their soul.
    Last edited by Bat-Man; 09-16-2009 at 05:36 PM.
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