Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
Can a person come to Christ without being drawn by the Father?
Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
can any person be born and yet live in a universe that was not made by the Son and always reflect the Maker's hand?......let me know how......LOL
Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
Alan do you have an answer for me?

Can a person come to Christ without being drawn by the Father?
Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
see post #878
Here is post #878
Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
All we need to do is seek God within our hearts and the Bible tells us that if we seek Him we shall find him......regardless of our situation at the time or place in the world...
We will find him!

This also is why the Bible teaches that the world that is made also teaches us about God....
And this fact is not by accident.
For God made all the things of this universe in such a manner as to be able to draw all men to Himself.
You didn't answer my question in post #878.

But I take it from our ongoing discussion that you believe that anyone can come to Christ without the Father drawing them to Christ.

Alan did I get that right?