many?
most?
or all?
So if they are different persons then saying the Father draws all men to Christ is different than saying that the Father draws all men to the Father.
""All these I have kept," the young man said. "What do I still lack"
many?.....most?...or all?
The man in question did not obey ALL of the commandment.
So here is my question again for you.
If a person obeys ALL of the commandments ALL of the time does that person need a Savior in order to live with God again?
many?...most?...or all?
what does it say?
many?...most?...or all?
If I said that Christ died on the cross would it be the same thing to say that the Father died on the cross or the Holy Spirit died on the cross?
and for anyone watching at home, the correct answer is....ALL !
The man CLAIMS to have obeyed all of the commandments--Jesus never says that he obeyed all of the commandments. Big difference.
So here is my question again for you.
If a person obeys ALL of the commandments ALL of the time does that person need a Savior in order to live with God again?
so the correct answer to my question points out the flaw in the thinking that just keeping a law gets a person to heaven....it dont!
works dont save us....nothing we can "do" with our arms and legs get our heart right with god...
If a person kept all of the commandments all of the time--living a life just like Jesus--what would be the basis for sending that person to Hell?
Jesus then goes on to next tell the guy that regardless of the kept Law you still have to get your heart right with God...
and Jesus tells the man how to do this...
"Follow Me"
This was the same thing that Jesus asked Peter and the 12 to do at the start when he asked them to "Follow me"
The difference is that Peter and the 12 dropped everything and went with Jesus, whereas this guy walks away feeling sad over how it would hurt to be poor...
Then by your own admission he didn't keep ALL of the commandments ALL of the time. Remember that during Christ's lifetime they were still under the Law.
Would you say that a person who keeps ALL of the commandments ALL of the time would be considered "good"?
Jesus listed the Laws for the guy...so you and I don't have to guess if the guy kept the right laws or not,,,
Jesus lists them for him!!!!!!
and how many of the ones that Jesus listed did the guy keep?...many...most?..or all?
(LOL, You wont answer that question because you see now how your whole position is destroyed in the words of the Bible ...if my own positions were as weak I would not like the question too)
Last edited by alanmolstad; 05-04-2014 at 04:34 AM.
Why laugh when I have answered your question AND you are wrong on this point and I am right. Now if anything is funny the irony of the situation is funny.Jesus listed the Laws for the guy...so you and I don't have to guess if the guy kept the right laws or not,,,Jesus lists them for him!!!!!!
and how many of the ones that Jesus listed did the guy keep?...many...most?..or all?
(LOL, You wont answer that question because you see now how your whole position is destroyed in the words of the Bible ...if my own positions were as weak I would not like the question too)
And here is your answer again--He absolutely did not keep them all.
Can you honestly say that you believe that this man kept ALL of the commandments ALL of the time?
And if you ever feel inclined to answer my question that would be much appreciated. Here it is again for you. If a person obeys ALL of the commandments ALL of the time does that person need a Savior in order to live with God again?
many?......most?...or all?.....LOL
Perhaps you didn't read my post. Here it is again for you.
Why laugh when I have answered your question AND you are wrong on this point and I am right. Now if anything is funny the irony of the situation is funny.
And here is your answer again--He absolutely did not keep them all.
Can you honestly say that you believe that this man kept ALL of the commandments ALL of the time?
And if you ever feel inclined to answer my question that would be much appreciated. Here it is again for you. If a person obeys ALL of the commandments ALL of the time does that person need a Savior in order to live with God again?