Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
BigJ this was a good thread until Sword highjacked it. I certainly hope this does not get deleted. BTW what LDS just got banned for participating in this thread?
Your comment is derogatory. This is an open forum and anyone can post on the threads. So if you don't want comments from others take it to PM. You have posted more on this thread than anyone .

Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
John 1 NIV
12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.


Hey are you, Erik, and the Sword roomates? It seems like you guys are taking turns at the computer.


First off regenerated IS born again or spiritual birth. According to verse 13 can a person "will" himself to be reborn?
The word is spelled roommates. I am neither Sword or Erik but if more than one person doesn't hold your view then we all must be attacking you, correct. Spiritual birth is a regeneration, on that you are correct, but Faith proceeds its. John 1:12-13 says Faith does come first. You posted the scripture and that is what it says so if you disagree with the scripture you need to take that up with God.